Heights listed are what the players are really at with shoes on (approx.). Weights are of what they were weighed in at in Phoenix. The Phoenix people measured the players, but messed up on many of them. In fact, they even admitted it with Dean Oliver. Oliver was originally listed at 5-8 ?, but when I told Dean of this, he was upset and no idea of the screw up. We both went to the Phoenix people and asked for a re-measure and they admitted to a screw up, but needed to re-measure him. He re-measured at 5-10. It seemed a bit strange when he was listed shorter than Rashad Phillips to begin with.
The verticals were questioned by many players and I was told several times you probably need to add about an inch and half or two to each one to get a real sense of the players real vertical leap. Each year the Phoenix camp and the Chicago camp measures the players and the strange thing is often times the players are measured to have very different heights and verticals. Last year two players were measured to be two inches taller in Phoenix than in Chicago, while three other players had verticals five or six inches larger in Chicago than what they had in Phoenix. Many of the players were different from one place to the other. Strange
(Below in parenthesis are the so-called measured heights (Without shoes); weights (In shorts), arm span, standing reach (with shoes), and vertical jump as measured at the Phoenix camp)
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Charlie Bell, 6-3, 207, PG/SG, Michigan State Bell played both point guard and shooting guard and did well at both, but was better when he was scoring and not setting up his teammates. He improved his stock as a scorer, but not really as a point guard, but if he gets drafted, hell probably have to play both. Was one of the better guards in the camp, but still didnt come away with a true position. Hell have to go on to Chicago to play. Good defender, but he didnt shoot well outside in the games, but he did in practice.
14 pts. 3 reb. 40.5% FG, 0-5 3PT, 75% FT, 3 Ass. 1.33 St.
Marques Maybin, 6-3, 184, SG, Louisville Showed he was a big-time leaper, but also a shooter when he concentrated hard enough. Defensively, he played well, but he is still a short shooting guard that has trouble creating shots for himself against taller guards. Did well in the three-point contest and could have easily did the same in the dunk contest.
6.67 pts. 6.33 reb. 28% FG, 0-4 3PT, 60% 3PT, .33 Ass. .33 Bl. .67 St.
Brian Merriweather, 6-3, 181, PG/SG, Texas-Pan American On a team without a true point guard, he had to play the position a lot, but he played much better off the ball setting up for the outside shot. Defensively, he didnt do well guarding point guards, but his size did help when the shorter guys tried to shoot over him, but they were able to drive around him.
6 pts. 2.33 reb. 60% FG, 0-2 3PT, 2.33 Ass. .33 Bl. 1 St.
Kenny Gregory, 6-6, 201, SG/SF, Kansas Big-time leaper, but didnt show a lot of skills. He plays more like a small forward. Even though he did improve his outside shot, he doesnt take it much. He seems to much rather take the ball to the hole or play in transition, which he does do well. Was measured out as almost 6-7, but sure doesnt look it. Defended a number of positions well, but didnt rebound as well as he should have.
11 pts. 2.33 reb. 44.4% FG, 0-1 3PT, 50% FT, 1.33 Ass. .67 St.
Jeryl Sasser, 6-7, 198, PG/SG/SF, Southern Methodist When all was said and done, he probably handled the ball as much as anyone on the team, especially in the last two games. Showed he is one of the most versatile players in the camp and has the ability to score or set up. Measured well and is at least a true 6-6, if not taller, which helps. Not a bad defender or rebounder. Pretty good shooter, but still needs to work on his form.
11 pts. 4.67 reb. 40.7% FG, 50% 3PT, 83.3% FT, 2 Ass. .67 Bl. 1 St.
Eugene Edgerson, 6-6, 234, PF, Arizona He did exactly what everyone thought he would; sneak around on the inside, rebound, and cause havoc for the bigger guys; however, not impress with actual basketball skills or shooting.He did move up some on a few lists, but mostly on overseas and possible NBDL, if he wants to go that route. He measured at 6-6, but was more likely closer to 6-5. His hair made him look like he was maybe 6-6. He does have a nice reach though.
5 pts. 7.67 reb. 14.3% FG, 55% FT, .67 Ass. 1.33 St.
Sean Lampley, 6-7, 216, SF, California Came in people thought he was taller that 6-7, but he ended up being shorter. Strange. He really is closer to 6-6 than 6-7, which shocked a few people. Also came in people assumed he was much closer to a power forward, but left as a true small forward. He showed he could create his own shot on the perimeter, shoot with a bit of range, run the floor, and play inside or out. His stock really didnt rise much though, but he at least showed he could play. Had he measured out to true 6-7 or taller, he would be considered a lock to be drafted and possibly a late first rounder if he could show he could defend on the perimeter as well.
10.67 pts. 7 reb. 35.7% FG, 0-2 3PT, 63.2% FT, 1 Ass. .33 Bl. .67 St.
Brian Scalabrine, 6-9, 244, SF/PF, USC Some liked him, while others couldnt stand him. He is a tough-minded kid that although he doesnt rebound or defend, he does punish and battle when he gets inside. He is much more of a shooter or perimeter scorer, even though he is very slow moving around, but with his size he creates space for his shot. Some feel he moved up, while others feel he will still have to show he can use his size in order to get drafted.
Ken Johnson, 6-11, 224, C, Ohio State Strictly a shot blocker and good at doing that. He is an average rebounder, but besides his hook shot about six feet away, he doesnt have an offensive game. Runs the floor well and gets up quick. He has a great reach and arm span, but some were surprised with his vertical, they were expecting it to be much better.
6 pts.6 reb. 30.4% FG, 4-4 FT, .33 Ass. 3 Bl. .67 St.
Zarko Carbarkapa, 7-0, 204, PF/C, Yugoslavia (1981) Thin big man that is perimeter oriented and although he likes to play outside, he is better in the mid-range area (8-15 foot range). Runs the floor well and gets to the hole. He knows how to get fouled and get to the line. Wasnt overly impressive overall, but he could be drafted, but as a second rounder more than likely. Only played one game due to getting sick.
(1 game) 6 pts. 2 reb. 33.3% FG, 0-2 3PT, 66.7% FT, 1 Ass. 2 St.
Rashad Phillips, 5-9, 164, PG, Detroit He seems to have the quickness that is hard to defend. He defends well himself, but has trouble keeping focus on that end and often times reaches in or goes for the steal when he shouldnt. A good shooter that can score fairly easy, but although he is a decent passer, he doesnt always run the offense or create for his teammates. When he does though, many times he forces things. He only got to play one game because of an ankle injury, but did well enough to raise his stock even a bit more, but mostly because other point guards didnt play as well. He feels the injury isnt really that bad, but was playing it safe. He was listed at almost 5-10, which is off. He is probably a true 5-8 ? without shoes. Some believe they gave Olivers original listing to Rashad.
Earl Watson, 6-1, 187, PG, UCLA Earl was consistent in this camp and one of the most consistent of the point guards. Played well enough to make some teams think about taking him, when many said they probably wouldnt in the past few years. He had some nice games and showed he could pass the ball to right person and probably came out of this camp the best true point guard. He did well defensively, but wasnt dominant.
8.33 pts. 4.67 reb. 32% FG, 0-3 3PT, 64.3% FT, 4.67 Ass. .67 Bl. 2.33 St.
Kyle Hill, 6-2, 182, PG, Eastern Illinois Scoring guard that needed to play more point, but really wasnt allowed to. He is a good athlete that runs the floor well, but loves having the ball in his hands. He passed well at times and even defended fairly well, but didnt improve much. He has good size and athletic ability, if he were a true point guard, hed be a first rounder, but he is really a two guard, which makes him a late second rounder or left undrafted.
9.67 pts. 0 reb. 37.5% FG, 36.4% 3PT, 50% FT, 3.33 Ass. 1.33 St.
Darren Kelly, 6-3, 179, PG, Texas This team was full of scoring point guards and Darren was another one of them. He again showed a good scoring knack, but also at times showed he could run the offense, but he just seems more comfortable when he is scoring or looking to do so. He isnt a bad defender either. He is listed at 6-3 and was measured at that, but he isnt 6-3. He is like 6-1 ?.
12.33 pts. 2.67 reb. 44.1% FG, 33.3% 3PT, 77.8% FT, 5 Ass. 1 St.
Brian Wardle, 6-5, 207, SG, Marquette Was pretty much used as a spot up shooter in this camp and did well at times at that, but is better when missing it up in the offense. He is the type of player the more he plays, the better. He has a way of getting points from all over, but isnt a good defensive player. He isnt the most athletic either and doesnt run well in transition type of play, but he has good size and is strong.
5.67 pts. 2.33 reb. 31.8% FG, 33.3% 3PT, 1 Ass. 1 St.
Casey Calvary, 6-8, 231, SF/PF, Gonzaga Virtually every single time he touched the ball, it looked like he was going for a power dunk from the baseline. HE has more than to his game, but he didnt seem to show it. He can shoot with a bit of range and has decent size. He is a bit of a tweener still though and that is going to hurt him. He cant defend small forwards and cant create his own shot either. He is a good rebounder, when he isnt looking for his own shot.
5.33 pts. 3.67 reb. 41.7% FG, 0-2 3PT, 75% FT, 1.33 Ass. 1 Bl. 1 St.
Damon Thornton, 6-8, 238, PF, North Carolina State When anyone talked about Thornton, it was his dunking and leaping ability. He showed he could really get some air, especially by winning the dunk contest. He isnt that bad of a rebounder and due to his leaping ability, he does block some shots and can get to the hole quickly. Dont expect a shot from past 15 feet, as it wont fall. He tries though, but it doesnt fall. His strength is also something that makes him look like a possible second round pick, but is short for the power forward spot.
10.33 pts. 4.33 reb. 47.6% FG, 25% FT, .33 Ass. 1.33 Bl. .67 St.
Isiah Victor, 6-10, 206, SF, Tennessee Wasnt as much of a factor as he was in Portsmouth, mostly as he didnt get a chance to play the transition game. In the halfcourt game, he seems to fade some. He is a good rebounder for his thin frame and does mix it up well against the big guys, similar to how he does on the wing, but he is a perimeter player that needs to see the ball more out there. He does have a few nice inside moves, but mostly on athleticism.
6.33 pts. 6.67 reb. 35% FG, 83.3% FT, 1 Ass. 1 Bl. .67 St.
Damone Brown, 6-9, 200, SF, Syracuse Good athletic small forward that made some big plays. He has great size for the position and does a bit of everything. Has outside skills and can score inside well, too. Not a real bad shooter, but still working on the three-point shot. Not bad of a rebounder and defender. Has some great plays that made him stand out. His one block one of the best plays of the entire classic.
13 pts.6.67 reb. 54.8% FG, 0-2 3PT, 5-6 FT, .67 Ass. .33 Bl. .33 St.
Kaspars Kambala, 6-9, 259, PF, UNLV Strongest guy in the camp probably and he showed flashes of what he could do, but he was banged around hard. He didnt score well, but he did have a couple of nice moves here and there. He doesnt have good athleticism and had trouble getting off his shot or making his moves inside, which had gotten his shot blocked, as well as him shooting some fade-away shots which he cant do well. Defensively, he had moments and can band and rebound well when his offense is on. He was suppose to be measured at 6-9, but looks closer to 6-8 or 6-7 ?. His bulk could just make him look smaller. Only person in camp to not get an assist, block, or steal.
Eric Chenowith, 7-1, 263, C, Kansas- Size is the word here, but he knows he has more than size, but the thing he needs, will take time to get and that is an aggressive behavior. He does run the floor well, not great, but good for over 7-foot. He isnt a great rebounder either, but he has the ability to be one, as he has a great reach and decent mobility. He has some of the things that make teams want him, but he is still a big kid many times and seems to be too passive for the center position at this moment. He showed a decent shooting touch out to around 15 or so feet. He also shot well and took smart shots.
Tony Harris, 6-0, 175, PG, Tennessee He is quick and speedy, but at times doesnt want to play the point. Hell bring up the ball, but he would rather shoot it. He does well scoring though and is a good passer, but he is pretty much what they call a ball hog. He has a real good chance to be a good defender one day, if he works on it, but his stock has been falling and it still is. Hell have to have some great workouts and hopefully get invited to Chicago. Only played two games.
Joe Crispin, 6-1, 182, PG, Penn State A shooter and that is pretty much all he showed he could do. He didnt do it well here in the games though. He was guarded too tight and even played without the ball some at the two and just couldnt get open to shoot. He did run the offense and got a decent lay up or two in, but is mostly a shooter and a good one at that. Not a good defender and not very quick, but is strong.
3.33 pts. 1.67 reb. 35.7% FG, 0-5 3PT, 2.33 Ass. .67 St.
Carlos Arroyo, 6-2, 193, PG, Florida International Really impressed some with his passing skills. They are flashy and possibly turnover prone, but he does get some nice assists. His scoring ability is a bit passive and he isnt really a great shooter or defender, but he is feisty and works hard. Has good size for a point guard and knows how to run an offense. He moved up the draft rankings, but still could go undrafted. He also has a nice knack for getting steals.
7.33 pts. 1.33 reb. 58.8% FG, 0-2 3PT, 66.7% FT, 4.67 Ass. .33 Bl. 1.67 St.
Terrell Lyday, 6-3, 195, PG/SG, BYU Didnt impress anyone really. Mostly a shorter shooting guard, even though he came to the camp to play the point, but the team already had three point guards. Didnt even take a three pointer in the camp games and wasnt impressive shooting at all. He at times had some nice defensive stops, but really wasnt considered a good defender.
6 pts.2.67 reb. 35.7% FG, 80% FT, 1.67 Ass. .33 Bl. .67 St.
Jeff Trepagnier, 6-4, 195, SG, USC The man of the camp. A lot of what he did was athleticism, but he impressed with his shooting and ability to play within a system or in a team concept. He didnt act like a ball hog or anything, but still got his share of points and probably 75 percent of the oohs and aahs. Size will still hurt him still, but he moved up a lot and could be the only first round pick from the camp. He is the only player that really stood out and really didnt show any flaws, even though he could still work some more on his ball handling and passing skills. He is a good defender and has the ability to guard both guard spots.
18.33 pts. 4.33 reb. 55.3% FG, 25% 3PT, 75% FT, 1.33 Ass. 1.67 Bl. 1.67 St.
Bryan Bracey, 6-7, 217, SF, Oregon He has impressive size for the small forward spot and even has the skills to do well at the position. Didnt stand out much, but he did have his moments and overall played well. A true small forward with even some guard skills. He can score well, but plays smart and works within the team concept. Didnt really stand out in the three games (In fact, shot poorly from the field), but in the practices, he was one of the better players. His size, athleticism, and build makes many teams want to see him more.
5 pts.3 reb.22.2% FG, 70% FT, .67 Ass..67. Bl.1.67 St.
Andre Hutson, 6-8, 244, PF, Michigan State Mostly what he showed at Michigan State, he showed here, rebounding, defense, and strength. He doesnt have a game away from the basket and does a good job when near the basket, so it only makes sense. The main problem for him is he is short for the power forward spot and sure didnt seem to be 6-8 like listed, but more like 6-7. He makes smart plays and knows how to play with good or poor players. He shoots for a high percentage as well.
12.33 pts. 6.33 reb. 59.3% FG, 66.7% FT, 1.67 Ass. .67 Bl. 1.33 St.
Brandon Wolfram, 6-9, 236, PF, UTEP He only did one thing the entire camp, score by getting the pass and driving to the hoop and throwing up a shot. Many times those shots were very wild and hard to look at, but many of them fell. He plays like a played that played at a small school and averaged near 30 points, which he did early this year. Not a defender type, but can cause some troubles. Some thought he could be a small forward and only thing that makes him like a small forward is the fact he can handle the ball some on his drives, otherwise he is for the most part just a power forward. Was one of the scorers in the camp and rebounded fairly well.
14.33 pts. 5.67 reb. 46.9% FG, 86.7% FT, .33 Ass. 1.33 St.
Calvin Bowman, 6-9, 213, PF/C, West Virginia Good rebounder and athletic for his size and position. He moves well and runs the floor pretty good. He has some nice timing as well. He can shoot out for a few feet, but isnt really a shooter type. He can defend some players, but does get pushed around some. He really isnt a small forward and could be considered a tweener in some ways, but doesnt have small forward skills and hasnt played the position. With some work, he could be a small forward though, but it may take some time. He was measured at 6-8, but he looks closer to his listed 6-9 height. One of the better all around power forward types in the camp.
9 pts. 9.67 reb. 33.3% FG, 0-1 3PT, 70% FT, 1 Ass. 2.67 Bl. 1 St.
Kimani Ffriend, 6-11, 220, PF/C, Nebraska Great athlete for his size. Seems to run like a deer at times and has good size, but could gain some weight. Has only been playing for four years and it shows in his low post moves, but he understands how to go to the hole and gets to the line a lot. Still learning the game in many areas, like the pick-n-roll. Went to the free throw line over 11 times in each of the three games. Also scored in double figures in all three games. Had a tough time completing some shots, but was often hacked pretty hard going up for points. Tried to show some range out to 13-15 feet and wasnt great, but he is moving his game out. Didnt shot block well though and defensively he did have a few lapses, but overall a decent defender.
Dean Oliver, 5-11, 176, PG, Iowa His quickness is definitely what teams liked, as well as being able to run the pick-n-roll. His teammates didnt seem to do well with it though. He is a good passer in both the half-court sets and running in transition. Defensively, he was average, but his shooting again was a problem. He has had a tough time getting some air under his jump shot.
4.67 pts. 2 reb. 27.8% FG, 14.3% 3PT, 75% FT, 3 Ass. .33 St.
Horace Jenkins, 6-1, 174, PG, William Patterson Showed what he has before, great speed, but he didnt fair well in a team concept and isnt a great passer. Defensively, he could be great, but he at times does have trouble. He isnt a true shooter, but can get hot.His vertical wasnt nearly as high everyone thought. Everyone was expecting a high 30s or 40 inch vertical.
7.67 pts. 1.67 reb. 33.3% FG, 0-7 3PT, 62.5% FT, 3 Ass. .33 Bl.1.67 St.
Monty Mack, 6-3, 200, SG, Massachusetts Didnt perform well. An average shooter and scorer. Not a great defender either. Needed to play the point and do well, but never got a chance and it doesnt look like he can either. When open on the outside, he can get hot, but when guarded, he has a very tough time.
6.67 pts.1.33 reb. 32.1% FG, 20% 3PT, 50% FT, 2 Ass. .67 St.
Nolan Johnson, 6-4, 228, SG, Oklahoma Mostly fought his way for points. Not overly skilled and takes many unnecessary shots. Not a good defender either. Played mostly like a small forward. He is a bit too heavy to guarding many of the other taller shooting guards. He did make some nice shots though and at times was the only go-to player on the outside.
6.33 pts. 2.67 reb. 26.1% FG, 0-3 3PT, 87.5% FT, 1 Ass. 1.33 St.
Gregory Stevenson, 6-5, 220, SG/SF, Richmond Hes impressed some with his ability to score and run the floor in transition, but he doesnt do it often enough. He lets his game come to him and almost to a fault at times. Sometimes when the team needed a scorer from the perimeter, he wouldnt step up. He isnt that bad of a defender either.
7.33 pts 3.67 reb. 53.3% FG, 2-2 3PT, 4-4 FT, 1 Ass. 1 St.
Anthony Evans, 6-7, 263, PF, Georgia Really has made some noise this draft year. He, like Rancik are the two biggest surprises in the draft thus far. He may nto get drafted, but many teams are interested in him, as he does rebound well and has a nice shooting touch out to the college three. He doesnt seem to be 6-7, even when his listed height came out, some wondered if that was still correct, as he seems almost like he is only 6-6, but he is so big, you never know. Sometimes players that are thick look smaller than what they really are.
11.33 pts. 9.33 reb. 37.9% FG, 75% FT1 Ass. 1.33 St.
Martin Rancik, 6-10, 233, SF/PF, Iowa State Played well and again was one of the better players all around here. He was knocked hard early in the last game and it seemed he broke his nose and had a concussion. Before that, he was doing very well running floor, scoring inside and out, plus even at times rebounding well. His Arm Span and Reach isnt very good though, but those arent always a big deal.
10 pts. 4.33 reb. 31.3% FG, 0-1 3PT, 66.7% FT, .33 Ass. .33 Bl. .67 St.
Terence Morris, 6-10, 222, SF, Maryland Still showed he was one of the best all around players for his size. He can shoot outside, play inside, run the floor, and is a good defensive player. He gets up quick to clock shots and has long arms to get steals, but some were a bit surprised to see his vertical under 30 inches. Does have troubles with his hands and isnt the best ball handler. He can create his own shot and does have good range on his shot and defensive ability. With shoes on, he is a true 6-10.
11 pts. 7 reb. 46.4% FG, 25% 3PT, 85.7% FT, 1.33 Ass. 1.67 Bl. 1 St.
Jarron Collins, 6-11, 250, PF/C, Stanford Was one of the smartest inside players in the camp. He knew when to score and how and made many difficult shots. He wasnt the most athletic big man though and at times was the last person up court. He has a nice soft touch around the basket and has an improving shooting range as well. Defensively, he didnt really impress anyone at all, but still seemed to get six blocks in two games.
14.33 pts. 6.67 reb. 50% FG, 73.9% FT, 1.33 Ass. 2 Bl. 1.33 St.
Chris Heinrich, 6-11, 237, C, St. Louis Probably the worst player in the camp. He really struggled against the other big guys. He acted like he had some leg problems. Defensively, he couldnt stop anyone, but he did well at times rebounding, but at short time spans. He doesnt really have any offensive moves either and not athletic at all. Didnt seem to be extremely bright either. Was listed at 6-10 ?, but looked closer to 6-9, but he did have some kind of leg problems.